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Dec 23, 2012 6:30pm EST
of the line." jonathan martin, you write that president obama had never been on a comfortable up being coached before becoming the most powerful leader in the world. guest: this is not unique to president obama. if you look at performances by incumbent presidents, it is tough. they are not used to being challenged in the way that they invariably are. i think it was especially acute in obama's case because he did not take romney that seriously. glenn says in the e-book, to the effect that mitt romney is barely human. president obama did not think that romney was a good candidate. he is getting ready for this debate in the wake of the 47% gaff that romney made. it is our conclusion that he did not get on his a-game because he did not think he was playing against an a-league opponent. host: mitt romney succeeded in the first debate. let's watch. >> governor romney says he wants to repeal dodd-frank. it appears we have some agreement that a market place to work has to have some regulation. in the past, governor romney has just said, roll it back. so the question is, does anyone out t
Dec 23, 2012 7:00am EST
-- what happened over the campaign in 2012. glenn thrush and jonathan martin will be here. the book is entitled "the end of the line." we are back in just a moment. >> if you worked for him, you would get a mercurial, sometimes generous, sometimes overbearing, sometimes almost cruel boss. he didn't know how to apologize. which, then at his age and class, they are not going to apologize to the young private secretary. he had a way of turning the tables, and his version of an apology would say, actually, i am a kind man and you are doing a very good job today. the issue was never settled. he always had to get the last word in. one night, going through white hall, -- he should not have been out. his bodyguard, inspector thompson, pushed him into a doorway. a couple of men were wounded. churchill did not like to be touched. he said, thompson, do not do that. he said, sir, it should not be outtables, and his version of an apology would say, actually, i am a kind man and you are doing a very good job today. the issue was never settled. here, this is dangerous. he said, i am only a here be
Dec 13, 2012 6:00am PST
jonathan martin. have i to say, you have to be careful not to pop your peas. barbara walters get these interviews, it's not news, i'm doing a holiday thing. they all sucker in to it because it's a way to talk to a nonpolitical office. hillary clinton's response was to me rather interesting and i think more honest than people realize. >> yeah. >> she's more undecided on this than i think folks realize. >> everybody you talked to around hillary, if you asked her right now, probably not going to do it. but they say if you ask her a year from now -- >> after the rest. >> she's exhausted. but after she's been down for a year, you're waking up and it's tuesday morning, you don't have anything to do. but at some point when you're as passionate about politics and public service as the clintons are, you have to wonder what's next. >> if i told you in december 2008 that bit end of 2012 the two most popular democrats in the country would both be named clinton, look at this. positive rating bill clinton, 60-24. hillary clinton, 58-28. if you can't beat 'em, join them. it's what bill clinton deep s
Dec 8, 2012 5:30pm PST
smith who attacked a lot of times. smith may be matched up against jonathan martin a rookie from stanford by the way. just five off the record set here by michael strahan in 2001. that's when brett favre took a drive for him. the other smith justin on the defense -- he's saying hey i'm pulmoing for my teammate -- pulling for my teammate al den smith. >> they're usually pretty good from the get-go and you know al den got better his last year progressed and then he just blew up. i mean that's attributed to him and a great football player no matter what we're doing. the stunt, the one-on-one pass rush. he's doing the work and he's getting it done himself too. i mean we take pride as a defense. that's the thing. you know records this and that. that's great. and he feels the same way. you know it's all about -- winning these games and getting to the playoffs and ultimately hopefully winning some super bowl and you know hopefully that record falls on the way -- on the way there. >> just tin smith. >>> it went viral on the internet this week. when 49er head coach jim harbaugh and acting
Dec 21, 2012 10:00am PST
political reporter jonathan martin and senior white house senior again thrush, co-authors of "the end of the line" a great insider account of the closing months really of this political campaign. both of you watched the president and his whole team up close. jay, to you, guns not brought up once until that one debate. >> except mentioning this, but you look at the three debates that president obama had, the one debate for the vp's. it was not an issue. it hadn't been an issue in american politics going back to 2000, andrea, as you know recalling when al gore lost his home state of tennessee and he lost west virginia. a lot of democrats pop layings because of the gun issue. they basically have seized it ever since. >> if you watch also on the screen the roosevelt room awaiting for the president to come in, and you see that joe biden is standing there as well. glen, the president and his team, they believed all along that there was no way they would win this, according to the polls? >> and the president himself held governor romney in contempt, and obama's team did, and i think that was on
Dec 31, 2012 6:00pm EST
talks to jonathan martin and glenn thrush of politico. their new e-book focuses on the crucial final month of the presidential race between barack obama and mitt romney. test. >> barack obama didn't perform that well until late and romney didn't perform the campaign well. campaign management is more important than an individual candidate's performance. >> woodruff: from boston, hari sreenivasan reports on a city- wide effort to keep kids engaged in education through meaningful work experiences. >> we're starting at the very early ages to try to help young people speak. that is a direct relationship to being successful in school and being successful in your life >> woodruff: and we close out 2012 with two takes on history, first, a look at the emancipation proclamation on the eve of the 150th anniversary of president lincoln's action to end slavery and the civil war. >> woodruff: plus michael beschloss and richard norton smith talk about potential historical turning points of the past year. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that
Dec 19, 2012 6:00am PST
versus obama, the 34 days that the election." jonathan martin is here. let's start with the concession. it took a long time whand was interesting is you were able to connect the karl rove moment -- infamous karl rove moment of denial to romney's campaign's decision not to concede. there is an unknown character here that caused all sorts of delays. tell me about it. >> there was basically for over an hour a pause in the romney campaign's high command in boston -- >> because they were about to concede. right? they were all ready to go. >> political junkies out there who go to amazon and get this book will love the opening scene. we have the suite in boston at the westin on the 16th floor. and the chicago suite where the president is. sort of back and forth on election night what's going on. romney was ready to concede at 11:15. ten minutes later karl rove is on fox news saying hold on, you're calling ohio too soon. what we found out, chuck, is that both carl at the fox studio in new york but also the romney campaign in boston was talking to the same person, scott jennings, who is romney'
Dec 20, 2012 9:00am PST
than the ebook "the end of the line" in which glenn thrush and jonathan martin talks about the hubris at play in the campaigns as they battled for the presidency. glen, so many delicious anecdotes in here to unpack. here's one of my favorites. the obama aides had always been a superstitious lot. the hyper-rationale phoupf was the unlikely ringleader. there was a blanket ban on thai food in chicago. the prep team's last supper in denver before the debate. you go on to say that hq ate lots of chicken tenders from nush houlihan's because that had worked in 2008. who knew? >> well, i have to say my collaborator jonathan martin has been senting me emails for this entire appearance saying sell the damn book. >> that's what we're trying to do now. >> it's $3, which means you can give it to somebody. >> it's a good deal. >> you really are selling the book right now. can we talk about the chicken tenders? >> snis stocking stuffer. >> it's cheaper than the actual chicken tenders. >> plouff was this hyperrationale guy who ran this campaign like a corporation, was apparently so nervous after the
Dec 22, 2012 8:00pm EST
decided the election. our guest are senior white house report glenn thrush and jonathan martin. "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. >> if you worked for him you'd get a mercurial, sometimes generous, sometimes overbearing, sometimes almost cruel boss, who didn't know how to apologize. which men of his age and class
Dec 23, 2012 2:00am EST
jonathan martin. live it 7:00 eastern and c-span. >> as president obama begins his second term, what is the most important issue to consider in 2013? >> make a short video about your message to the president up. c-span a student can competition. >> a chance to win $5,000. the deadline is january 18. go to >> the national institute of drug abuse director talks about the abuse of prescription drugs like adderoll. >> i want to welcome everybody here and thank you for being here. we are monitoring the future, it is a way for us to get a pulse of the drug use among high school students. also, very importantly about their perceptions. through this information we can have prescripts -- this year we have indicators that are going to work the negative side, indicators that are going towards the positive side. i will start with those on the negative side because i think we need to pay attention to them in order to prevent them from going up. that relates to marijuana use. we have seen significant increases in the use of marijuana among the teenagers, high-school students, and i
Dec 22, 2012 11:00pm EST
of the new e book from politico, glen fresh and jonathan martin. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c- span. >> as president obama begins his second term, what is the most important issue he should consider in 2013? tell us. >> if you are in grades 6-12, but a short video with your message to the president. >> had your chance to win the grand prize of $5,000 and there is $50,000 in total prize is. the deadline is gingrey 18th. but to of south carolina is retiring in january. on monday south carolina governor nikki haley announced she would appoint tim scott, who will be the first african- american republican to serve in the senate since the 19 0's and the first black senator in the south since reconstruction. he was first elected to the u.s. house in 2010. this is about 35 minutes. >> good morning and it is a great day in south carolina. it's a historic day in south carolina, because, you know, first of all, we all were saddened and surprised when senator demint told us that he was not going to continue in the u.s. senate. but i will tell you,
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am PST
the campaign. the president felt very down afterwards as glen and jonathan martin report in their new e-book what a tough period that was for the president. he had to find win himself and come back. >> so raching, finish it off, bring it to today. there's the fiscal cliff. got to be the most recent of the big points in politics for 2012. >> absolutely. that shows just how fleeting a victory is in this town. president obama won a stronger than predicted victory. he basically got every state that was seen as being open up for play, up for grabs. he won them all. he won ohio. he won virginia, he won fa fla. he campaigned largely on this issue of middle-class tax cuts, fairness for the middle class, give the middle class a chance. he saw his win as a validation of the strategy, this philosophy that he ran on, but now we've country to a political reality in washington, total gridlock. the republicans do not agree his victory means the american people endorsed his vision for the wealthy paying more. so far that's not been enough to carry him to the victory. >> when it comes to politics,
Dec 20, 2012 3:00am PST
. "politico's" jonathan martin joins the table down in d.c. next on "morning joe." hey big guy, i want to get a big tv for my big family, for the big holiday. we like to watch big games. we got a big spread together... so it's gotta be big. how about the 55-inch lg tv. it's led and has incredible picture quality... that's big... but i got a little budget. with the walmart credit card special financing you can go big this year. that's big time! alright! [ male announcer ] get the season's hottest brands, like an lg 55-inch led tv. make an electronics purchase of $599 or more on your walmart credit card and get no interest if paid in full within 24 months. america's gift headquarters. walmart. >>> 44 past the hour. here with us now, nbc news white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," chuck todd. and senior political writer for "politico," jonathan martin who is the co-author of the new e-book, "the end of the line," which is apparently selling like hotcakes. >> it's doing well. it's doing well. >> that's great! >> on, itunes, all of your loc
Dec 31, 2012 3:00pm PST
series of four ebooks on the 2012 contest. the authors are senior reporters jonathan martin and glenn thrush and they join me now. congratulation, gentlemen, on your book. >> thank you very much for having us. >> warner: let's just set the context for a minute. if you go back to say mid 2011, the conventional wisdom was president obama would have a very hard time given how bad the economy was, given how high unemployment was. what was your conclusion based on this reporting, about whether he and his campaign won this year, won this campaign or whether mitt romney's team lost it. >> i must dodge your question, but we think that it's both. that both governor romney failed to tell the story about who he was, to make the case for his candidacy and that president obama effectively preempted his ultimate attempt to do just that by rung a really brutal campaign against governor romney in the spring and early summer. those two factors in our minds what what were so key in the president's victory. >> and the central paradox of the campaign is mitt romney was supposed to be this c.e.o. for the
Dec 19, 2012 2:00am EST
line" written by two great writers, jonathan martin and glenn thrush. we'll be right back. ring. rin. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> let me finish tonight where i started. the constitution of the united states commits this country to insuring the domestic tranquility. that's an urgent need right now. we've had a quartet of shooting sprees in this presidency. no one on the right, by the way, has attacked the president or the any of them or all of them. why? the reason i gravely suspect is
Dec 18, 2012 5:00pm EST
could damage them. >> called the end of the line written by jonathan martin and glen thrush. we'll be right back. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got nine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. >>> let me finish tonight where i started. the constitution of the united states commits this country to ensuring the domestic tranquility. that's an emergent need right now.
Dec 18, 2012 11:00pm PST
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Dec 18, 2012 4:00pm PST
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Dec 30, 2012 8:00am PST
. politco just published an ebook "the end of the line." joining us now glenn thrush and jonathan martin. >> does it seem to you that the media missed some or much of what was happening in this campaign? >> from our reporting, we spent about a month after the election. >> a month? >> digging deep. >> about 23 hours a day. >> we worked -- we found some new information certainly. but, look, i don't think that this campaign is similar to '08 in terms of, you know, john edwards having a mistress and that kind of thing where there is some huge bombshell that, you know, was not seen. >> sarah palin. >> what we found out, reinforced what we thought already. what was some interesting, fresh, new details. mitt romney, always had this tension, howie, in terms of how to talk about his personal life and his faith. we found out his campaign had a mormon document arian follow him around that they cut in 2010. they were concerned it was talking too much about romney's faith. it captured something that we knew are was there. >> you write that president obama stored out of a debate session and he had tensions wit
Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm PST
-- i'm just like, yeah, you're right, no. progress, progress, not perfection. >> jonathan? >> but, martin, here is the problem with jan brewer and senator rubio for that matter. remember, both on climate change and on immigration, their leaders in the republican party who were leading on this, remember president george w. bush was leading on immigration, so was senator john mccain, both on immigration and on climate change. the fact that the republican party has gotten away from sensible positions on both those issues shows how far down the rabbit hole the republican party has fallen. >> okay. well, politico reports governor brewer has met with casino magnate sheldon adelson amid talks she may run for president, yes, in 2016. stop laughing. he was such a big help to mitt romney, i suppose jan brewer might be the right logical choice next. after all, he's only spent, what was it? $150 million on this election? john? >> go ahead, john. >> go ahead, ana marie. i'm dumbfounded by the fact -- >> you're speechless? >> i'm speechless. >> why? >> jan brewer, presidential timber. are you o
Dec 22, 2012 7:00am EST
thrush coauthor of the end of the line and politico's senior white house reporter and his coauthor jonathan martin. th
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
>> the medium enters in as a condition of the art form itself. >> well, well, to me, i mean, it's all instinctive. i just try to feel it, you know. i try to get a sense of it and not think about it so much. >> just like those two in washington, they are talking but they're also posturing and posing instead of negotiating. it's gamesmanship. it's not cooperative governing but competitive dealmaking where each is merely trying to crush the other as daniel day-lewis' ruthless oil man did in "there will be blood." >> my sword reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. i drink your milkshake. i drink it up! >> who will drink the other's milkshake? will they learn how to talk to each other? will they drive off the cliff? oh, there's a cheap hollywood feel to this bhol narrative, this self-inflicted drama, and i hope no one ever, ever makes a movie about it. that does it for "the cycle." jonathan capehart is in the chair today? i feel like he's cheating on us. weren't you part of "the cycle", brother? >> i was, but it's a new day now. thanks guys. i'm jonathan capehart in for martin bashir on this december 31st, 2012. we're so very close to a deal that would stop all hell from breaking loose. oh, and happy new year. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. >> we're going cliffing. >> still no deal in sight. >> they just shovel it out to us. >> washington still in deadlock. >> we're falling over that fiscal cliff. >> republicans simply can't utter the word yes. >> the president is, i believe, slowing down the process. >> they have no strategy. they don't know what they want. >> kim kardashian is pregnant. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> no deal is better than a bad deal. >> something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> hats off to the president. >> as of this point is looks like i'm going to be spending new year's here in d.c. i can come to your house? is that what you're saying? >> happy new year! >>> grab your party hats, chill the bubbly. just eight hours to go. yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we we're hopeful that congress can get it done, but it's not done. >> so it's not done. in case you missed that, he said it twice, not done. reports of an emerging deal focus on a few key parameters, raising tax rates on couple it's making more than $450,000 a year, increasing the estate tax rate, and extending unemployment benefits for one year. the major sticking point new appears to be sequester spending. while the president said he would prefer a grand bargain, a certain branch of government stood in the way. >> with this congress that was obviously a little too much to hope for. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >> those remarks might not have helped matters with senator john mccain taking to the floor moments later to, you guessed it, slam the president. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to be saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading ridiculing of republicans' exercise. >> well, perhaps mccain is upset at not being in on the top flight dealmaking. lead negotiations have now fallen to vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who said an agreement is very close and said congress should act on the tax portion of the deal. >> let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. we can do this. we must do this. >> famous last words. i want to go to the capital now. joining us, the dynamic duo, the silver fox and mr. boatshoe. nbc's mike viqueira and luke russert. gentlemen, thanks for being here. our cnbc colleague john harwood is reporting that there will be no vote in the house tonight, and according to his sources, the u.s. will go over the fiscal cliff. what's your reaction to that? have you heard that -- >> we can confirm that. >> i love john harwood, but luke and i have been reporting the same thing, jonathan, so there. >> okay. so we're going over the cliff? >> apparently. that's the bad news. the good news is, the parameters of a deal are definitely there. as you described, jonathan, the sticking point remains this so-called trigger, the sequester. remember, they agreed upon it last summer in july and august of 2011 when they came to that big debt ceiling deal. if there were no decision on how to cut government spending by now, these draconian cuts, indiscriminate across the board to defense half of it, $500 billion in domestic programs, the other half of it, the other $500 billion would go into effect. and now some want to have that delayed. they want to have it put off. the house of representatives, the leadership there is saying absolutely no way. there are ironies that abound all along here in these negotiations, and a lot of what you see on the surface, the president and mitch mcconnell, they're both sort of trying to set each other up here for the end game. the president comes out, he's very positive, very upbeat while he's delivering those subtle jabs to republicans. you can see the tweets coming from republican staffers and members saying, this is no way to talk to us if you want our votes. they were sort of walking into a little trap really. i mean, if you remember back during the t.a.r.p. vote when that whole thing crashed back in december of 2008, republicans said they voted against it because they were mad at a speech nancy pelosi gave and they were ridiculed in that. and we had john mccain and his ambivalence on the floor. and then we saw mitch mcconnell coming up saying, yes, mr. president, you have been bashing us for weeks, let's vote on those tax rates. mitch mcconnell said let's do that and we'll leave the sequester aside. we'll let it kick into place. we'll tackle that whenever we get back here to washington after the inauguration and the state of the union and all that fun stuff. so that's where we stand right now. that does remain the last sticking point. >> luke, jump in here. what do you have to add that mike has already told us. >> well, mike viqueira is 12, 13 years of experience on capitol hill, so there's not much more to add after that. what i will say is i don't think that we can dismiss a lot of the anger on the republican side at the president's remarks today. i have gotten a ton of e-mails from republican aides saying the president is holding the middle class tax cuts that were agreed to hostage. i think if you take a step back, it's quite extraordinary that mitch mcconnell has agreed to $400,000 as a threshold. you think of all the partisan fights over what that number would be. but going forward, there seems to be a little anger amongst republicans saying that the president is not realizing how much they have already handed over. they're obviously in a much stronger negotiating position at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, but we have to caution you guys, the ink is not dry on any type of deal. the house is not going to vote on it tonight. they honestly believe the deadline could go until thursday at 11:59 a.m. by which this congress would have to adjourn legally by then, constitutionally. so they think there's still some time. it's going to be a push for john boehner to get this by his members. even if it comes out of the senate with 70 or so votes, it's not a layup in the house by any means. >> right. mike viqueira, luke russert, thank you, gentlemen. >> take care. >>> while a deal on tax rates appears to be close, the issue of spending cuts is far more contentious as the president illustrated with a few choice words today. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone, and you hear that sometimes coming from them, sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending -- [ laughter ] shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's the formula for how we're going to solve this thing, then they've got another thing coming. >> i wanted to bring in democratic congressman john larson of connecticut with us from capitol hill. thanks for coming in. >> happy to be here. >> i want to talk spending in a moment but, first, what's your reaction to the parameters of a tax deal, a hike on incomes more than $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for couples. your tlauts houghts on what we o far. >> we really don't know that much. we haven't seen anything in the house of representatives. i just heard luke russert say, you know, the ink isn't dry on any agreement yet. so while we're hopeful that there is an agreement that can be reached and have been prodding our colleagues to do so, things could implode rather easily, as we saw before here in the house of representatives when the speaker's proposal wasn't acceptable in the house of representatives. so the devil remains in the details, but we're hopeful. certainly heartened by mitch mcconnell's stewardship in the senate. we do have a bill in front of us already that we could vote on, that the senate has already bipartisanly passed at $250,000. there's a jobs bill that could be taken up that everybody agrees on. so we're somewhat confounded. people in my home state, at augie and ray's as i like to refer to, you say sequestration, they say how about jobs in they put how about getting it done so you put the country back to work. squarely that's where we need to be in my humble he is estimatioestimatiost estimation. >> let me ask you, we were talking with mike and luke earlier reporting that there will be no vote tonight. is that what you're hearing also? >> i don't think it's physically possible but there will be votes tonight in the how many times starting at 6:00, but they will be primarily on a suspension calendar votes, et cetera, so they're not any votes of consequence. the ish irony is that's been the situation for the last several months. when we could be voting on the farm bill or could be enacting a tax cut for the american people. boehner is an honorable man and i believe him when he says that he will bring their bill. he will bring the president's bill or the senate bill to the floor for a vote, and i think that's the responsibility of this body in the 112th congress is to step up to the plate and take a vote up or down on this issue regardless of where you stand. >> congressman, i wanted to play for you a couple dissenting opinions today from the senate. take a listen. >> sure. >> people are drowning. that's a bad thing. taxes going up is a bad thing. we're going to let 2% drown. >> no deal is better than a bad deal and this looks like a very bad deal the way this is shaping up. >> that's rand paul and tom harkin, the very opposite sides of the aisle, yet both denouncing even this potential deal. will it pass do you think? >> well, i think if you can get -- if they don't have to deal with the cloture vote and i know tom harkin has long been opposed to the cloture vote, if they just require a majority of votes to get the bill forward, i would imagine they will be able to get the bill through. that was the same provision in which they got the last tax bill through which currently sits on the floor of the house of representatives. so this would be yet another bill different. we don't know all the contours of the bill or what it contains, but it would be different, but we would have the opportunity to in the house to vote on two different options. obviously, we favor the president's option. >> right. congressman john larson, thank you very much. >> yke you're welcome. >>> stay with us. much more ahead as we continue the countdown to 2013. >> i know it was you. you broke my heart. president's option. >>> just a few hours ago president obama seemed to draw a line in the sand on the fiscal cliff negotiations. take a listen. >> flt we'if we're going to be about deficit reduction and debt reduction it's going to have to be a matter of shared sacrifice at least as long as i'm president and i'm going to be president for the next four years i hope. [ cheers and applause ] >> joining us now, julian epstein, a democratic strategist and dr. james peterson, an associate professor at lehigh university and a contributor to welcome, both of you. julian, when you hear the president talk like that, do you get the sense that the white house believes it will not be blamed if no deal materializes and also now we hear the house is going to take a pass on a vote today. >> yeah, i think the house will likely vote tomorrow or the next day, so that won't matter so much. i think all the polling shows that the public was blaming and would blame the republicans if we had an economic calamity that resulted from not having a deal, and i think as to the president's performance today, i think it is important not to gloat, but it is also important to remember that everyone thought this was going to be a kabuki dance up to the finish and it ended up being more of a judo flip. the president essentially got everything he wanted on tax policy, not just on rates but the credits for energy and education, the amt fix, the doc fix, and the republicans got very little if anything they wanted on the spending. a lot of democrats are miffed the president didn't take off the debt ceiling renegotiation in six weeks but i think the republicans are going to have a very, very hard part on what will be chapter two of this negotiation because they trial ran the medicare voucher proposal they had, and that went over very, very poorly during the election and they don't like defense cuts that are in the sequestration right now, so it's hard for me to know where the republicans really go in stage two of this on the spedding cuts. so i think the president has done very well for himself. >> dr. peterson, what's your sense of the president's speech today? it almost sounded like the president was daring house republicans to cross him. >> i think the president's tone today does reflect what julian said, which is that 11% approval rating, the idea it looks like the house will be holding the ball at the end of the day so they will sort of get some of the blame for the fiscal cliff ascribed to them. i'm hearing some people critique the president on him -- either this gloating tone or him sort of showing his hand a little bit too much here in the ninth hour up to these talks but i'm not sure. these are the same folk that want this president to be more aggressive, who want him to sort of gloat a little more and be more assertive in his interactions in terms of these negotiations. i'm not sure what folk want to see out of president obama but clearly if you're talking about who is going to end up being -- looking better at the end of these negotiations, it looks like the president is well on his way to that position. >> let's turn to the gun control debate, julian. something the president told david gregory on "meet the press" this weekend. take a listen. >> should we have an armed guard at every skol. then ra told me that could work. >> i'm not going to prejudge the recommendations given to me. i am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. >> so, julian, does the fiscal cliff battle give you any faith that we can have a rational debate on anything as divisive as gun control? >> well, i think it depends, and i think what the president was saying was, one, that the nra's arguments on self-defense, the need for more gun prosecutions are not credible. and second, that he can't do this on his own. if we're going to have serious change on gun policy, we need to have a national movement akin to the national movement to change public opinion on the iraq war. congress should bring the victims of newtown up to capitol hill who would be willing to call for serious changes in gun policy. i think shows like this show have to focus on the fact we have a new toub that occurs in this country every single day. 30 americans on average are killed every day from handgun violence. i think we need massive protests against irresponsible retailers like walmart who sell assault weapons and make them available to anyone -- pretty much anybody that asks. the question is not whether or not we'll have change. the question is whether or not progressives, independents and fair-minded republicans will form a national based movement that will really expose the need for this. one place we might start is asking congress if they believe in the self-defense argue am, why don't they allow guns in congress? >> the thing is polls are mixed on gun control. a majority favors stronger gun control, but a majority also says we shouldn't ban assault weapons. so how does the president frame his case to voters so they support him? >> i think, first, he's got to do like what he did with david gregory is subtly acknowledge the fact the discourse is moving in wrong guards. if we're talking about arming teachers, that's the wrong conversation to be having in the wake of newtown and aurora and the other incidences over the last six owe eight months. we need to sort of reorder and redirect the conversation. the president tried to do a little bit of that here but at the end of the day, if we're talking about armed guards and arming teachers, we're not talking about common sense gun safety. that's the conversation we have to have going forward. we have to have victims' families and survivors coming into congress. we have to have moments and people protesting. but we also need a congress that's actually connected to its constituency on these matters and language and discourse matters here. part of the reason that assault weapons ban poll doesn't get the support of the majority of the americans is because the nra has been very, very effective at suggesting that an assault weapons ban is a slippery slope. we need that kind of powerful discourse to counter what the nra is doing and we also need lobbyist groups and other special interest groups to step up. with need a lot of folk to be involved in what needs to happen in this country with respect to gun control. >> and -- >> totally agree with that. >> go ahead. >> the nra counts on shows like this show eventually using interest. you see -- shows like this have a major responsibility to focus on the carnage that occurs on our streets. look what's happening with the kids in chicago. >> one thing to keep in mind is that this conversation isn't going away because, you know, the president formed a task force. vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> happy new year. >> stay with us. much more ahead. >> many new year. >> happy new year. in this country we say happy new year. >> ha, ha, ha, ha! safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new >>> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. ♪ i heard somebody say ♪ burn, baby burn ♪ disco inferno ♪ burn, baby burn >>> fireworks and old friends, champagne toasts and resolutions. oh, and that dreaded fiscal cliff. here are today's "top lines." countdown to sky fall. >> the last thing you want to hear on new year's eve is another speech from me. >> the thought of not kissing somebody is just -- >> an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. >> we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. we'll have further announcement perhaps. >> it looks like i'm going to be spending new year's here. >> what's happening in walk right now is pathetic. >> had the republicans been willing to take the deal i gave them. >> they have had a brain freeze. >> with this congress that was obviously a little too much to hope for. >> the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> whatever happens today is really inconsequential. >> we want to starve the beast. well, guess what? starve the beast doesn't work. >> hats off to the president. he stood his ground. >> i have been doing a lot of thinking and i love you. >> how do you expect me to respond to this. >> the pressure is on congress to produce. >> i pledge to call to the vice president. >> i have had a number of conversations with the vice president. >> i know it's new year's eve. i know you're feeling lonely, but you just can't show up here, tell me you love me. >> it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell. >> talking to a 5-year-old saying, look, you have to eat your vegetables. >> the democrats don't have a grover norquist. >> group of people in the house of representatives slapped around their own leader. >> there's a word called compromise. >> it doesn't work this way. >> how does it work? >> basic fairness. >> i love that you are the last person i want to talk to before i go to sleep at night. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> i am cautiously optimistic. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before. we can again. >> you say things like that and you make it impossible for me to hate you. >> but the american people elected me to put forward a balanced approach. >> my whole life i don't know what this song means. it means should old acquaintance be forgot. >> i want to wish everybody a happy new year. >> let's bring in the new year with our panel, jimmy williams and susan del percio and angela, general counsel for the congressional black caucus. welcome all of you. jimmy, let's start with the fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> we're hearing about a strange marriage between minority leader mitch mcconnell and the vice president. why is the senate's top republican having to go to the white house for help with democrats? >> well, i mean, they have been running around saying we want the president to lead, we need the president to show leadership. john mccain just went to the show and said the president needs to show leadership. does he think the vice president's office somehow got moved away from the executive branch? i'm pretty sure the president via his vice president is leading. if that's the case, it sounds to me like they don't like what he's leading with. >> you said via. he hasn't built the relationships with members of his own party or the other party. so, yes, it makes sense that vice president biden is brought in because he still has relationships with people on the hill. >> but, susan, another issue here, and that is mcconnell having to go to biden because he's learned he can't depend on boehner to help him. >> well, i think -- >> no? stump the guest. >> i think boehner wants to be there. everyone agrees, but he is having a problem with his conference. there's no doubt about it, and this group of people who are willing to let us come to this point is very frustrating as a republican. i find it disturbing. i was one of those republicans who thought let's come to a grand bargain for our country's sake and politically. get it off the table for two years. let's move on. it made sense. >> instead, we went to plan "b" and so -- and other crazy scenarios. it was really bad. so is boehner's situation going to get any better in the 113th congress when we've got newer people? >> potentially. you will have a slightly more moderate, very slightly more moderate conference, and once he's re-elected, i think he will put up a vote even if it means not getting the majority of the majority and getting the democrats to put it up. >> it will get a vote and the reason he will is it's not tax increases, it's tax cuts. >> angela, what did you want to say? >> i don't think it will get better for john boehner in the next congress. he's going to lose more republican seats. even if there is a more moderate bunch, there are fewer votes. i think at this point his party and the conference realizes they can stretch him a little tighter, and they can see that he's got a lot more work to do. boehner is going to have a tougher 113th congress without a doubt, and with this fiscal cliff deal, they're going to take it and stretch it to the very end. >> angela, you think republicans are sweating then because a few weeks ago they sounded like they could frame president obama as the bad guy. >> president obama is not the bad guy. you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the president's press conference and whether you thought it was a bad idea. but when angela was talking, susan, you were shaking your head when she said that the american people are behind the president. >> well, i think right now the american people are frustrated with washington, and that's where that's going to come down. yes, the president is better than the worst guy. boehner is the worst guy and the president is better than that, but that's not the standard you want to meet. you want to have a standard of we respect our government and we're going forward. so that's why i was shaking my head is right now it's like to be the best out of the three bad guys isn't that great. >> i just talked to three separate senate democratic offices and to a tee everyone said what the hell was the president doing at that press conference? democrats said this. they don't get where he was going with that. >> let me ask you this. i saw some comments on twitter from pundits saying that maybe the thing that was happening here is the president was trying to quell what sounded like this morning a growing sort of frustration and resistance on the left to the deal that was emerging. is there -- isn't there some merit to that? >> i think that's possible, but i think you have -- take a look -- listen, i'm not concerned at all about house republican seats or house democratic seats. what i look at is who is up for re-election on the democratic side and the republican side in 2014. if you look at those democrats, the ones that aren't going to retire, they're vulnerable, every single one of them. they ought to be, every one of them, thrilled with what the president just did. >> that's not exactly true. it was maybe 10, 20 years ago, but there's only -- there used to be 100 swing seats out there for democrats -- >> not now. >> now it's 25. so you have these members who go back to their districts, and -- >> i'm talking about the senate. >> on the senate -- >> the house is irrelevant to this issue. >> from the american people's point of view they don't really care about 2014. they care about what's going to happen in the few hours from now. >> angela, let me bring you in on this, the theory out there that what the president did today wasn't so much about clubbing republicans over the head as it was quelling growing resistance within the democratic party and on the pro -- within the progressive base to a deal that was emerging they thought was a bad deal from their perspective. >> right. i think that the president was trying, as always, to demonstrate leadership. he is the leader of the free world and has to demonstrate, listen, i know what you're feeling, i know what you're thinking, and i feel your pain. he is saying to these folks, we've had to compromise. we've had to give up some things that are very tough, and at this point we have to swallow this large pill and make a change for the american people. i don't think that he embarrassed himself by holding the press conference today. i don't think that in any way it was a bad move. i think he demonstrated not only by the group of folks standing behind him but from the response almost from the audience that he's in the right. i don't think he's the best of the three worst guys. i think that he really was demonstrating leadership and we'll see with the deal. >> let's change gears and, jimmy, let me play you a mash up of some of the comments made about secretary clinton. >> i'm not a doctor, but it seems as though that the secretary of state has come down with a case of benghazi flu. >> this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> charles, you had a good line, hillary has severe benghazi allergy. >> i have been doing a lot of work on that. that's the first reported case and it's a very, very severe one. >> very, very severe. let's see the medical report on that. >> unbelievable. now we know she is in the hospital spending new year's eve because of a blood clot that was discovered during routine short of checkup after her concussion. so, you know, john bolton called it a diplomatic illness. alan west, my favorite outgoing member of congress, called it benghazi flu. so should we hold our breath awaiting an apology from these two characters? >> one would think. this is, after all, the former first lady of the united states. this is, after all, the former united states senator from the state of new york. this is, after all, the sitting secretary of state, which in the line of succession to the presidency is fifth in line if i'm not mistaken. i could be wrong on that. here is what i do know. you have john bolton, who by most accounts within the republican party, except for the neocons s a complete boob. you have alan west who lost a seat he should not have lost. why? because he's a moron. i just said it, new year's eve, alan west, is a moron and thank god he's leaving congress. these people should apologize. a fake news sham organization should apologies to secretary clinton and her family. the woman is in serious medical shape and this is what they come up with? >> just -- >> she may be the president of the united states one day. what are they going to do then? >> two points, one, they should have never said it in the first place. she was very ill before she -- and fell as a result of her illness. second of all, republicans should just shut up about this. this is absolutely insane. the woman is ill. the only thing people should be saying is i hope she is well soon. >> think differently but say -- lie about it for god's sake. >> we have to stop saying something, thank you. >> happy new year. >> stay with us. as the clock continues to tick. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? 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>> well, if we go off the cliff and we don't correct some of the damage i just mentioned, it's very serious for middle and low-income people. first of all, the payroll tax holiday ends, and that's going to happen whether we resolve this tonight, tomorrow, or a month from now because neither side is fighting for that. and that's a significant loss in the paycheck. that's a 2% cut to the paycheck of working people. now, as i mentioned, if you're someone who has been on long-term unemployment, that means you've been unemployed for a bunch of months already, half a year or more, and so i can't imagine you have got much savings. you're depending on your unemployment insurance. that's a hard cutoff. you're gone if they don't extend that. now, in the plan that the vice president and senator mcconnell have been working on, apparently they have agreed to extend unemployment benefits for a year, but, of course, that plan doesn't sound like it's going to go anywhere tonight. >> well, let's talk a little arithmetic. what does a good deal have to look like in terms of spending cuts and new taxes and what kind of real gladollars are we talki about here? >> that's a really important question because there's really a big difference between a deal and a good deal. i mean, you can jam and cram through any kind of deal you want, but a good deal is one to my thinking that adds serious balance to our longer term deficit reduction plans by putting some real revenue in the mix. ever since the president won the election, many of us who crunch these numbers have been looking for a revenue number in the neighborhood of $1 trillion over ten years. that's about what we thought this kind of threshold on income taxes of $250,000 would bring to the table. well, now they're talking about a much higher threshold, and the plan that the vp and senator mcconnell are hammering looks like it's providing $600 million. it's falling short of that metric. >> you sent out a tweet implying going over the cliff might not be a bad thing. if that's true, why all the hysteria. >> that's because if you go over the cliff and you quickly repair the kind of damage we were talking about in my first few comments, a couple things happen. first of all, you have a much better chance, to my thinking, of getting that kind of revenue number that makes a lot more -- that adds a lot more balance to your longer term fiscal picture than the kind of plans i'm hearing kind of jammed out here in the last minute. and, secondly, the leverage really very much i think goes to the president and his side because at that point it really does look like the republican party has held 98% of households hostage in terms of their tax bill so they can protect the very narrow slice at the top. >> i can't let you go without asking you a question about your former boss, vice president joe biden. he's been in negotiations with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. just a short time ago mcconnell suggested a deal on taxes may be very close. now, knowing biden as well as you do, take us inside that room. how is that conversation likely to go? >> you know, those guys have been negotiating and closing deals for a couple decades, and it's a very different kind of politics than i think we've gotten used to over the last few years. i mean, joe biden used to say that this congress, it's not your grandfather's congress. by that i think what he meant was you could actually get in the room with another old-school partner and shake hands and have that handshake actually mean something, meaning your caucuses would be with you. you could craft a deal and actually have your troops marching behind you. that certainly wasn't the case with john boehner. so i think in that room they're probably bemoaning how hard they have to work to actually line up all these pieces to get their troops behind them and, frankly, they can't know whether those troops are going to be there, especially in the house. but that's probably the way they've been operating. >> jared bernstein, thank you very much for coming on. help new y help new year. >> same to you, jonathan. stay with us. ing. ring. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco. hotwire checks the competitions' rates every day so they can guarantee their low prices. so our hotels were half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪ >>> nbc news is reporting there will not be a vote in the house of representatives, meaning the u.s. economy will go over the fiscal cliff just as we ring in 2013 at midnight. nbc's kristin welker is live at the white house. kristin, let's get to the fiscal cliff in a moment. you've got some breaking news. >> reporter: i do. we have some breaking news on secretary clinton's health. as you know, he was admitted to the hospital due to a clot. of course, she had fainted a couple weeks ago and she's been recovering ever since. i'm going to read you this statement from her doctors. they say this is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. it did not result in a stroke or neurological damage. to help dissolve this clot her medical team began treating the secretary with blood thinners. she will be released once the medication dose has been established in all other aspects of her recovery. the secretary is making excellent progress and we are confident she will make a full recovery. she is in good spirits engaging with her doctors, her family, and her staff. so, again, those are from her doctors who are treating her in new york, and really the bottom line there is that she is expected to make a full recovery. a lot of people concerned about secretary clinton's health, of course. a lot of people tuned in to what's happening with her. so again, just to recap what they're saying, that clot is situated between her brain and skull sort of behind her right ear. they are treating her with blood thinners but they expect her to make a full recovery and the fact she's jovial as they describe her is certainly good news. >> that is good news. kristin, do we know anything about the president, his reaction? has he been monitoring her progress in all this? >> reporter: the white house has been monitoring her progress throughout this entire episode hoping she makes a full recovery as quickly as possible. because this information is just coming into us, there hasn't been a reaction from the white house at this point, and they're really referring all these questions to the state department, which is really helping us to navigate how she's doing and how her recovery is going. again, the bottom line is that she is expected to make a full recovery. of course, a lot of people, including the white house, concerned last night when she was admitted to the hospital due to this blood clot, and so, again, there is some good news in that she's expected to recover. >> turning back to the fiscal cliff, just this hour we have reports of republicans claiming the president is holding up talks over the sequester. now we have senator mitch mcconnell and the president saying they want a deal on taxes first before dealing with the sequester. what's going on down there? >> reporter: well, there's this final sticking point of the sequester. they have agreed to this tax deal, which is not insignificant, of course. this tax deal which will increase taxes on individuals making $400,000 or more and couples making $450,000 or more because, remember, some republicans have been resistant to raise taxes at all. the hangup over the sequester is that the white house is saying, democrats are saying let's extend it, stave it off for a year, and pay for it with new tax revenues. republicans say, no, let's deal with it in the nearer future. that's really where the fight is coming together, but these negotiations continue to evolve and my sources tell me they're still optimistic for a deal. >> kristin welker, thank you. happy new year. >> reporter: and to you. >> thanks for watching. more live coverage on the fiscal cliff crisis is coming up next.
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summit from doha, carter. >> are you calling president obama's wishes and had the respond to society groups who structure to any kind of negotiated deal here in doha? >> i have no comment on the first part of that. >> democracy now! questions u.s. climate negotiator jonathan pershing about criticism of the failure to do more to cut emissions and save the planet from catastrophic climate change. we will speak with ronny jumeau and martin khor of the south centre in malaysia, and then anjali appadurai. >> you have been negotiating my whole life, you have failed to meet targets and a broken promises. >> a year after calling on world figures to do more to save the planet, the 22-year-old american college student was banned from the climate talks here in doha for the first week. she joins us today h. then we look at how the koch brothers are influencing climate policy.politic this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the death toll from a massive typhoon in the southern philippines has doubled to more than 270 people. typhoon bopha is the most southerly typhoon ever recorded in the western pacific and the strongest to hit the philippines this year. 80,000 people have been forced to flee their homes. we will have more from doha after headlines. new clashes have erupted in egypt in the ongoing uproar over a proposed referendum on a new constitution. on tuesday, thousands took to the streets to protest egyptian president mohamed mursi's effort to hold a referendum vote later this month after asserting wide- ranging powers, protecting him from judicial oversight. egyptian forces fired tear gas at protesters, some of whom broke through lines to approach the president. the rally coincided with a one- day strike from newspapers. the united nations is warning food shortages are growing in syria as a result of rising prices and mounting attacks on un vehicles delivering supplies. the u.n. world food program is currently feeding one, 5 million people in syria, the vast majority displaced from their homes. the news comes after the u. n announcing they are cutting back and removing staffers from damascus. among the latest victims of violence in syria, nine students and a teacher were killed when their school was bombed in damascus. government forces have blamed rebels for the attack. nato has approved a request by turkey for the deployment of patriot missiles to its border with syria. turkey sought the missiles to defend itself from cross border violence. speaking in belgium, anders fogh rasmussen says the patriot missiles would serve as a deterrent to syria. >> i do believe that a deployment of patriot missiles will serve as an effective deterrent, and that way the escalate this situation along the syrian-turkish border. the mere fact that the patriot missiles have been deployed make it necessary for any potential aggressor to think twice before they even consider attacking turkey. >> the palestinian authority is urging the united nations and other actors to hold israel accountable for its recent expansion in the west bank. israel has announced plans to build 3000 new settlement homes and expand the e1 settlement the which splits the west bank in two in response to last week's vote at the united nations. palestinian president mahmoud abbas says the security council should pressure israel to stop expanding settlements. >> we have communicated with both the un and un security council on this issue. we want to follow up on this. not just in the e1, but all settlement activity. clearly, israel doesn't want to reach peace. >> while the settlement expansion have affected five other countries and their ambassadors, the obama administration has offered a tepid response, calling it counterproductive. >> i want to remind you, on building settlements in jerusalem are in accordance with israeli law. if anyone wants to investigate further, they can go to the bush letter and see on the changes in the territory which the u.s. president spoke of. >> the white house is denying iran's claim of having captured a u.s. drone in iranian airspace. iran says that they captured a scaneagle aircraft conducting surveillance. speaking at the white house, press secretary jay carney rejected those claims. >> we have no evidence that the iranian claims you cite are true. i would refer you to the pentagon's comments this morning on the details of this particular type of uav, but again, we have no evidence that those claims are true. >> protests are continuing in mexico in the aftermath of clashes between police and citizens after it the inauguration of president and ricky pena nieto. activists have accused mexican police of using infiltrators to carry out vandalism and other acts of sabotage. in mexico city, hundreds of people marched through the streets to call for the release of jailed protesters and to denounce police infiltration. >> all this vandalism was caused by infiltrators. has been hard because we have been protesting peacefully. we have been peaceful and as we reject the return of the pri. we are rejecting the return of pena nieto and we do not think it should be like this. many should be released. >> the u.s. senate has unanimously approved a $631 billion military spending bill. the measure includes the accelerations of a withdrawal from afghanistan as well as intensified sanctions on iran. the obama administration has threatened veto minutes over his authority to handle terrorism suspects. in a separate vote, senate republicans defeated a measure to ratify a landmark concatenations treaty banning discrimination against people with disabilities. the final vote was 61-38. five votes short of the two- thirds majority needed for approval. republicans rejected the measure, saying it would make it easier to obtain abortions and place restrictions on home- schooled children. the rejection came despite the un treaty itself being modeled on a piece of u.s. law, the americans with disabilities act of 1990. 126 countries, including britain, germany, china, and russia, have already ratified the un convention is a person with disabilities. bernard obermeyer of the who noted that the treaty rejected by republicans covers 15% of the world's population. >> people with disabilities make a 15% of the world's population and have worse health and socio- economic outcomes than people without disabilities. across the world, people with disabilities have for help, lower educational achievement, less economic participation, and higher rates of poverty and people without disabilities. this unacceptable situation must change. >> california has formalized its refusal to ensure the enforcement of federal effort begin immigration requests. on tuesday, attorney general kamala harris said state agencies are not required to -- comply with the program known as secure communities, where local authorities share fingerprints with immigration officials. the program led to the record deportation of around 400,000 people last year. striking care for workers at the port of los angeles and long beach have reached a tentative agreement after an eight-day walkout. workers went on strike last week against international corporations who they say are outsourcing good paying jobs. the strike cost southern california a reported $8 billion in lost economic activity and marked the worst disruption of local cargo traffic in a decade. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. high level talks are continuing here at the united nations climate summit in doha, qatar. just before we went to air, a coalition could in solidarity with the philippines following yesterday's deadly typhoon that killed at least 270 people. for years, scientists have warned climate change would cause strong typhoons in the region. on tuesday, un secretary general ban ki moon warned that extreme weather is the new normal. >> danger signs are all around. one-third of the world's population lives in countries with moderate to high water stress. land degradation affects 1.5 billion people. icecaps are showing unprecedented melting. permafrost is thawing, sea levels are rising. the abnormal is now the new normal. >> a new report out today by the world bank warns disasters related to global warming have cost arab nations $12 billion in the past 30 years and will increase greatly in coming decades. the world bank says some cities in the arab world could become unlivable by the end of the century. here at the climate talks in doha, developing nations are accusing the united states and other wealthy nations of not pledging to cut greenhouse gas emissions enough and failing to pay poorer nations for loss and damage from weather events caused by climate change. the director of the third world network. >> it seems the developed countries are not doing what they should do. the commitments that they have put on the table, cutting emissions of greenhouse gases under the kyoto protocol, is very low. it is very important that the data states is not part of the protocol, and worse, we have more concretely in the second commitment period. >> i had a chance to question the chief u.s. climate negotiator jonathan pershing. >> civil society groups are extremely frustrated here. president obama, in his first speech after elected, said that he didn't want our children to live in an america that is threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet. yesterday, a number of civil society groups held a news conference and they said -- greenpeace said that tod stern and got the pershing have come to doha with a goal of obstructing the process. he said that it was disrespectful of president obama to inflict on us to the bureau negative negotiators to act as if the commerce that he made after the election were never made. obama should pick up the phone and tell his delegates to follow his lead or alternatively return to washington. jonathan, are you calling president obama's wishes, and how you respond to thcivil sociy groups who say that the u.s. is the leader of stricter to any kind of negotiatied deal? >> all have no comment on the first part. on the second piece, the united states' role is engaging actively in the discussions. we are one of the significant triggers to the intellectual thinking in the process. we will continue to do that. it does not mean that we will agree with everyone. we are looking to participate in an outcome that will lead to reductions in global greenhouse gas emissions. we are looking at outcome that will be acceptable to all parties. we are looking at an outcome that will be effective in the timeframe we set for ourselves to move forward. >> , to make a comment. the world the president obama the but what his children to live in is already here, and it will only get worse. the most trusted people on earth right now must be scientists. there is all this talk about we have to do the recording to the science. while the talks might begin moving at a snail's pace -- like a caravan stuck in a sandstorm. everyone seems to be breaking your neck to get far away from the sides as possible. the world is already here. and whether the u.s. or any other country, including my own andhey are living in it -- i would hope maybe their kids would turn around and tell their parents, haven't you noticed? we are already there. >> that was ronny jumeau of the seychelles. before that, you heard jonathan pershing, the chief climate change negotiator. so far, the u.s. envoy tod stern has only held one news conference after one week and half. he was goodlett told another one today, but if you look at today's list of meetings, the event is the only one marked in red. a press conference was cancelled. ronny jumeau is with us here in doha, representative of the alliance of small island states. and we are joined by martin khor, executive director of the south centre in malaysia. ambassador, you're on the panel with the jonathan pershing, the u.s. climate change negotiator. do you agree with greenpeace international, that they should be forced out of the conference, or follow what president obama has to say, if in fact, president obama is saying something different from what they are saying here? >> i want to be sure we are not shooting the message in spite of the message. my problem is the message from the u.s.. this morning when we started, the doha caravan seems to be lost in a sandstorm, battling to find its way out. the u.s. it is not the only actor, although it has a big effect. all the big countries and they have limitations of what they can do, are in an economic crisis, but are we living in a world where only the u.s. and the eu are in economic crisis, and small countries are not in an economic crisis? we are all in a crisis. if they can cut emissions, and they do not, how is that affecting others in the philippines? >> the number of dead from the typhoon has increased to 270. what about the seychelles? as an island nation off the coast of africa, how are you affected by climate change? >> our economy is mainly based on tourism. incidently, mainly from europe. there have been changes in the patterns of the fish, so our whole economy is now at risk. if it continues like this, the seychelles, the sea level rise will not be our biggest problem but we will become a failed state. >> you are in the indian ocean. place yourself geographically with other islands off the coast of africa that you are near. >> we are in the group of 115 islands east of kenya, north of madagascar. we cover a huge area of the southwestern indian ocean. we're at the full mercy of what happens in the ocean. we are ocean people. anything that affects oceans, whether through increased temperatures, acidification, which is a bigger threat to khor reece that morning temperatures. >> what happened with acidification? why is that a result of climate change? >> we are reaching the limits of carbon dioxide and water can take out of the air. we have abused the oceans as we have abused the forests. >> people here have said they joked that they found something with a label made in the u.s.a., and that is co2. martin khor, you are not that far from the philippines. talk about the significance of typhoon bopha and what that means for malaysia and for these climate talks. >> i think we are seeing these extreme weather events. in our country is the heavy rainfall. the scientists have said, climate change is contributing to that. as the oceans become warmer and there is more water in the atmosphere, we get much more rainfall. for three years running, pakistan, for example, have suffered massive floods. many parts of china have been suffering from flood. and then we have these storms coming in the united states, sandy, in the philippines, central america, and so on. the catastrophe of climate change is already on us. we are now waiting for the next century. we are the children we are talking about, who are suffering from climate change. unfortunately, the talks that we see in doha are not reflecting the urgency that is required by what is happening out in the world. >> why? >> years ago there were countries who did not believe in the science of climate change. today, all countries believe in the science, but the fight is over who is responsible and who has to carry the burden of stopping emissions and halting climate change work happens. here we have in doha developed countries not living up to their promises, legal commitments. >> what are these commitments? >> there are a few times. one, they would take the lead in cutting emissions. because their emissions have been very high in the past and they have grown rich because they were able to emit and live off cheap oil and coal. secondly, they had committed to helping developing countries to take action, through the transfer of funds, and the right kind of technology. but what we are seeing here in doha are many developed countries leaving the kyoto protocol, and joining the united states, who had left some time ago, and the remaining members in the kyoto protocol are putting forward emission reduction figures that are too low -- something like 20% for europe, which they have already achieved. so the system we started with in bali, five years ago, that developed countries would cut emissions by 5% to 20%, a similar effort under the convention. >> the u.s. did not sign onto the kyoto protocol? >> under bush, they agreed they would do similar to would be to recall program -- joke part of all members would do -- tkyoto protocol but never signed on. now each country puts forward whenever it can do, and that will not be challenged. this is not based on science. as a result we have very low emissions coming from developed countries, which means they are showing a bad example to developing countries who would want to do more, but seeing that leaders are not living up to their expectations, this has repressed their ability to do more in terms of their own population. >> ambassador jumeau, before you were the roving ambassador for the seychelles, you were a u.n. ambassador. the u.s. has a major drone bass in the seychelles, which means you have close ties to the military. does that affect your negotiations here? >> not at all. first and foremost, we are a small island country, a member of the alliance of small island states. we are also part of the african union, but we always take the same position as the islands, because the islands have to stay together. ironically, the u.s. drones in seychelles take off from an airport only 10 feet above sea level. that should give them an idea of the kind of threat we are facing. when a tsunami hit the seychelles, it covered part of the airport, so by being in the seychelles, they cannot say they do not understand our position because they're very drones take off from the airport. we will also not allow our relationship with the u.s. to affect our tough stance here. we will continue to call for urgent and deep cuts in emissions, not just to save the seychelles. if the seychelles go under, so does new york, so does the nile delta. so does every low-lying part and city, like new orleans. we are fighting for all people in the same situation. >> what about hawaii? despite donald trump's contrary views, that is where obama was born. >> exactly. we speak to people in hawaii as islanders. they say, you are a sovereign government. when i look at you, i do not see the u.s., i see an islander like me. >> i want to turn to pa ousman jarju. our producer spoke with him. he is from gambia, the chair of the bloc of nations. >> can you describe why this money is needed in how climate change has impacted africa? >> look at the impact we are facing, the floods and droughts on an annual basis. people are dying over the last two decades. over 900,000 people have died in ldc's. there is no need for us to show it, it is very evident. for the countries to really demonstrate that commitment, they need to do more. they have been spending $4 billion on subsidies, but that is going to appease the oil companies. that money is needed in our country. >> that was pa ousman jarju from gambia, the chair of the least developed countries. greenpeace also said that doha is where deals come to die. what do you want to see out of this conference, do you expect anything? >> we expected a lot but now i am wondering whether that will happen. the first thing we need in doha is to be certain that the kyoto protocol will be met fully. in the first five years of the protocol, the first commitment period, countries agreed to cut their emissions by an average of 5%. now the second period which begins in 2013, the science says we have to cut by 25% to 40% for developed countries. this is a big issue. up until now we do not know how much the developed countries that still remain in the protocol will do the cutting. >> where does china into the story? qatar has the largest greenhouse gas emissions per capita per worker -- per-capita in the world. where does china into the story? often you hear the u.s. saying it is all about china now, that they commit more greenhouse gas emissions. >> the big thing with china is its population. they have 1.5 billion people. that is why their emissions are high. if you look at the average emission per chinese, it is not very high, maybe 5 tons of carbon dioxide, compared to the united states, which is about 20. china is still very much a developing country. their average per capita income is $5,000. they have just escaped from being a low middle-income country. so we are looking at a huge population and that is why the total emission are large. if you look at india, is even worse. the poverty in india is still very bad. to pick on countries like india and china and say, unless they act, the united states will not act, this is a very poor excuse. it is picking on an issue that is not relevant. of course, it is true, in the future, india, china, malaysia, we need to take massive actions in order to prevent the large expansion of carbon dioxide, but it is only an excuse to demonize china. china is still a competitor to the united states. >> i want to play a clip of an environmentalist from all salvador. our team caught up with her today here in doha at the qtar convention center -- qatar convention center. they condemn the ongoing negotiations happening here at cop18. >> i am from el salvador. i am here because the people of this town are the ones suffering the most even though we have not created the problem. in these discussions, they want to solve the problem in the same manner they created it. they are going very slow. some people have even dare to say that we have gained a lot. 18 months ago, people did not know about climate change but we do not need to know, we are living through it. this is 500 years of colonialism that is giving its fruits. if we didn't start looking at a different paradigm, we will continue pretended that we are looking for solutions. i know -- i see the people dying from hunger, all the problems being caused by these situations. >> that was a longtime activist from el salvador. that was clearly a global gathering. we're coming to the end of the two weeks. ambassador, why does this go on? as we speak to negotiators are run of world they say, we do not really know what will happen. we saw in copenhagen a deal was brought out the last minute after most negotiators thought they were gauche trading -- negotiating something, and that was brought out by a small group of industrialized nations. >> unfortunately, copenhagen was reduced to brinksmanship. everyone was waiting to see who would be the first to blink. i do not know why we should spend two weeks. it takes a lot of hard work. fortunately, i heard you mention theldc's before, and alliance of small island nations, we are all in an alliance now. it is the way that we refused to give in, the way we refuse to be silent or culled which finally, the subject to come out. nobody want to be blamed for the collapse of the talks, but there is a better way to do it if we can all agree from the beginning what needs to be done, instead of this one-upsmanship. as we go into 2020, we need a much stronger agreement and the kyoto protocol. this is why we are fighting to have a stronger continuation of the protocol so that it can be used as a template for the new agreement. the new agreement is when the china and india's of the world, and everyone else will be involved with usa and europe. >> i think the united states' favored word right now is voluntary. tell me if i'm being too cynical. would it be a success if the doha talks collapsed, that it did not come out with anything, a success for the that states not wanting to regulate -- united states not wanting to regulate those campaigning and lobbying in the united states? >> it would not be a success for the people of the united states. we have seen from hurricane sandy, it is affecting the united states. look at the drop in texas. it is in the interest of the people of the u.s. to act and take leadership in the world so that the world can act. everyone is looking to the u.s. because it is the richest country per-capita. it is most responsible for climate change, historically, and even today, the most important polluter. if the u.s. does not act, that will depress other countries. as i said, president obama, in his first term, he promised a lot. when the united states came back to the negotiations under obama's leadership, there was a standing ovation. the u.s. is back and they will take the lead. unfortunately, it prevented others from acting, and it is actually in danger of doing worse than what bush did. bush said, i do not believe in a climate change. if you want to do something, do it and leave me alone. but this present team says we are the leaders of the world. if we cannot do much, we do not want others to do much. i hope in his second term president obama will show more of leadership. we know he has problems with congress and public opinion, but that is what leadership is about. we look forward to a change in the positioning of the data states so that it can take its proper place among the leaders who will fight climate change, show an example to the developing countries, and also provide money and technology transfers to developing countries. in doha, they are not showing any leadership on that. developed countries seem to be saying, we are not going to give you much money, so therefore you can forget about the technology transfer. that is a depressing message to developing countries. >> i want to thank you both for being with us. ambassador jumeau was the un ambassador to the united states. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. when we come back, a young college student who was banned from the summit in the first week -- but after a twitter storm, was allowed to re-enter. she gave a major address at the climate talks in durban. >> this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting live from doha in the gulf country of qatar, where the cop18 is taking place, you and from work on climate change. we turn now to anjali appadurai, a 22-year-old college student from the college of the atlantic in maine. last year at the climate talks in durban, anjali made headlines when she addressed the assembly on behalf of youth delegates. she will join me in a minute. first, let's go back to the speech last year. >> i want to do the floor to ms. anjali appadurai with the college of the atlantic who will speak on behalf of youth non- governmental organizations. >> i speak for more than half of the world's population. we are the silent majority. you have given us a seat in the hall but our interests are not at the table. what does it take to take -- get a stake in the game? lobbyists, corporate influence, money? you have been negotiating all my life. in that time, you have failed to meet pledges, missed targets, and broken promises, but you have heard this all before. we are in africa, home to communities on the front line of climate change. the world's poorest countries need funding for adaptation now. the horn of africa and those nearby needed it yesterday, but as 2012 dawns, our group green climate fund remains empty. the international energy agency tells us we have five years until the widow to avoid irreversible climate change closes. the science tells us we have five years maximum. you are seeing -- saying, give us 10. the most stark a trailer your generation's responsibility to ours is that you call this ambition. where is the courage in these rooms? now is not the time for incremental actions. in the long run, these will be seen as the defining moments of an era in which narrow self interests prevailed over science, reason, and compassion. there is real ambition in this room, but it is being dismissed as a radical, deemed not politically possible. stand with africa. long-term thinking is not radical. what is radical is to completely alter the planet's climate to betray the future of my generation and to condemn millions to death by climate change. what is radical is to write off the fact that change is within our reach. 2011 was the year in which the sun and jordy found their voice, the year when the bottom shook the top. 2011 was the year when the radical became reality. common but differentiated and historical responsibility are not up for debate. respect the foundational principles of this convention. respect to the integral values of humanity. respect the future of your descendants. mandela said, it always seems impossible until it is done. so, distinguished delegates and governments around the world, governments of the developed world, deep cuts now. get it done. [applause] >> thank you, miss appadurai, speaking on behalf of half of the world's population, i think she said at the beginning. and on a purely personal note, i wonder why we do not let half of the world's population speak first in this conference and not last? >> that was anjali appadurai, a college of the atlantic student from bar harbor, maine, addressing the durban climate summit. this year, she was banned from the doha summit for the first week. she is allowed in now and is here to tell us what happened. anjali, thank you for being with us. what happened? after giving a dramatic address last year, how is that they began to from this year's summit until you find that this past week? >> those who lost their badges in durban had to go through a real accreditation process to go to the conference this year. basically, i did not pass the process. >> why did you lose your badge last year? >> i have to have a personal meeting with you and head of security. he was not convinced through my personality and reputation that i would not organize against. >> what is your role here, are you allowed to all protest within the summit? >> and the un has a specific set of guidelines for what actions you are allowed to take. technically, we are allowed to protest, just in a very constructive space. >> i wanted to play a message from the head of the u.n. summit. this is a comment made by the executive secretary of the u.n. framework convention on climate change. during a news conference last week she said, "civil society is not doing enough to encourage governments to raise their level of ambition." she argued governments could only do what they were elected to do. just before the summit, she also addressed a conference of youth. >> he need to provide the speed and scale and direction. so, thanks very much, do not give up, do not become innovation -- rather, the impatient -- but still keep going. do not let your it in patients move you into inaction or cynicism. >> do not let your impatience move you into inaction or cynicism, says the head of this u.n. climate summit. yet, when you acted, you were barred. you had a personal meeting with christiana. >> yes, the main problems of society had here was the relationship between them and the political process is less, we are valued in the space, and more, we are incredibly privilege to be here and there will be punitive measures if we do anything out of line. >> what are you doing here this week, what ultimately caused you to be able to come in? social media? >> we unleased a twitter storm and personal notes were sent in through e-mail and twitter. i do not know how much of an effect that had on her decision, but it was quite the morale booster for civil society to see that kind of consolidated effort. >> you are here for the week, what are you doing? >> working with a couple of organizations, the third world network, and my group, an international group of students at the college of the atlantic, which i know you know. we are here to track policy and keep others at home updated through our blog. we are focusing on the issues. >> what about for the first time seeing this arab youth movement, at the beginning of the second week, hundreds marching to the streets of qatar, which was a first. >> that made history. we have been impressed by the arab youth climate movement. it is a very cohesive movement. they are doing incredible things. they are very well organized and they are very much focused on their government, putting pressure on their local government. >> what is your message to negotiators this year? you said last year, you have been negotiating all my life. has it changed? >> no, if anything, it is more urgent this year. if we have a week deal and negotiators agree to that week deal, that will lock in a decade of inaction, and all of society will condemn them. any minister or politician who agree to the deal. >> you are an american student, your family is from southern india. what is your message to president obama? >> i would urge him to change his stance on climate change, to follow through on what a lot of people without would be the coming out party for the u.s. and climate policy, doha. i would urge him and thought stern to work together to ease the u.s.'s position on this deadlock which they are almost single-handedly creating. >> what are they doing? >> there is very clear opposition. developing countries say that we need support from you to reduce our emissions. we need finance, support in terms of capacity building, technology, and developed countries say there is no need for us to have any negotiating text on this. we're going to move forward on a slower pace. anything we do will only take effect after 2020, when it is far too late. literally, in a meeting yesterday, they were presented with a blank text. the heading was action on advanced action, and it was a blank piece of paper. that is the kind of action we are getting from developed countries. developing countries say, yes, we need action. >> you see the negotiations going on in the united states. they have nothing to do with climate change, even though we are just dealing with hurricane sandy. we're dealing with the fiscal cliff. we do not have enough money for our own country. >> we need to understand that the fiscal cliff and the climate is not associated. the climate is not waiting for us. developed countries need to make some serious shifting of priorities and they need to allocate what is needed to solve the climate issue. >> anjali appadurai, to a student at the college of the atlantic. she addressed the durban u.n. climate summit. this year, has been allowed back in for the last week, to participate. when we come back, we have an analyst talking about the kocht opus. >> today at the doha summit, we went to a news conference were major climate negotiator from belgium and the european union sang the song as well. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. we are broadcasting from the 18th u.n. climate change summit. i'm amy goodman. the billionaire brothers charles and david koch are known for funneling vast amounts of money into republican campaigns. the u.s. is accused of blocking progress here at doha and a new report says that the koch brothers might be the biggest force behind the stalemate. they run oil refineries and control thousands of miles of pipeline, giving them a massive personal stake in the fossil fuel industry. researchers say they have also funneled tens of millions of dollars into climate-denial science, trying to derail policy that could lessen the impact of global warming. the report is called "faces behind a global crisis: us carbon billionaires and the un climate deadlock ." to talk more about this, we are joined by one of its authors, victor menotti. victor, welcome. for people watching on television, you may have noticed a spider or my left shoulder. that is a piece of art here at the convention center, a massive 9 meter sculpture. there are marble eggs inside the spider's sac. she made it for her mother, who was a weaver. you have an image of what you call the kochtopus, not a positive image, but not so different from the work of public art. >> it is the perfect backdrop to explain what is happening. it is a follow the money story. it goes from doha, to washington, to wichita, which is where the koch's are based. many may think that this is a conspiracy theory, but you look at where the money is coming from, these two brothers are the world's wealthiest individuals. their combined net worth now exceeds that of the world's wealthiest man, carlos slim. they have spent more than anybody, any company, even more than exelon, in campaign contributions -- >> the richest are? >> no. 1, carlos slim. no. 2, bill gates. number three, ignacio ortega. then warren buffett. if he took the " brothers together, we consider them -- koch brothers together, we consider them a single entity. they are worth approximately $80.2 billion. they have spent more than anybody on campaign contributions, lobbying expenditures, climate denial science. we are not saying they are the only force. they are part of the fossil fuel complex. but they are the financial force and ideological leaders of the counter movement. >> i wanted to ask you about an action that took place this week. i wanted to play a comment of one of the people who were arrested this week protesting in texas as delegates and activists gathered here in doha. two activists in texas locked themselves inside of a section of the keystone pipeline. the pipeline would carry crude oil from canada to the gulf coast, a project opponents would say would unleash lethal levels of carbon dioxide. president obama now faces decisions of the approval. this section of the pipe where activists locked themselves would run less than 100 feet from homes in texas. this is matt almonte, speaking in the dark, inside the pipe. >> this is the first night being inside the pipe. basically, we have set up shop here. it is very important for people to feel empowered against resource extraction. keystone pipeline does not release serve to benefit anybody but the corporations who will reap all the profits, at the expense of the communities that will be poisoned, through their and it is notir, right, and i wanted to play myself in the middle of that fight. >> that was matt almonte, speaking from inside of a keystone pipeline. he and two others were arrested later. what is the keystone xl pipeline? thousands have protested and many have been arrested for in front of the white house. what does it have to do with the koch brothers? >> 25% of tar sands imports they already process. they have vast holdings in the can of the territories. they have some of the pipeline and birds, existing refineries in corpus christi. we call it the koch keystone pipeline. we understand the world needs the u.s. to mobilize around these brothers to get private money out of politics and to isolate their extreme elements in the republican party. and these are not all conservative thinking spirit these extremists, and many to be isolated. >> victor menotti, "faces behind a global crisis: us carbon billionaires and the un climate deadlock" is his report. i will be speaking in oslo, norway on saturday. we will be broadcasting from just outside the nobel peace prize ceremony on monday. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. email your comments to or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693, new york, ny 10013. tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. tonight, a conversation with a nobel laureate and notable african author and poet, wole soyinka, the first african- american to win the nobel prize for literature, out with a new peace, "of africa." it is amounting to a manifesto of africa can navigate its way through a successful 21st century. we are
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violence in america today? jonathan alter is an msnbc political analyst and julian epstein, a democratic strategist, joins us now. welcome to you both. >> hi, martin. >> john, does the nra still have the potency that apparently that congressmen appear to fear, that new york city mayor michael bloomberg says is exaggerated. >> it is exaggerated but it is a very potent, probably the most potent lobbying organization, because what happens is when attention fades, then the nra lobbyists move in and they nibble away at any possible legislation, they kill the legislation in the dark of night. what needs to happen is that we need a movement, a new conversation and a new movement so that they feel the political pain, so that somebody who opposes what should always be called common sense gun legislation, common sense, keep that in mind, never fail to attach common sense, so when you -- >> is the common sense when michigan governor rick snyder who is promising to look at close legislation that would allow concealed weapons in school and churches. that's the common sense discussion that'
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, texas instruments and lockheed martin. we'll talk about the future and outlook of the stock with jonathan geller of "the boy genius report." >>> been a little over a week since he met with president obama to talk about avoiding the fiscal cliff and caterpillar's ceo joins us from the nyse to talk about the fix the debt campaign and more. you know anything we don't know, doug, that you can tell us about how this finally looks and whether we do it? >> i don't know if i know any more than you do or not, joe, but we've all been working hard to impress upon our leadership in washington how important this is not to go over the cliff. we had good sessions with republican leadership, democratic leaderships and with president obama in the white house. nobody over there wants to go over the cliff at this time, there's nothing that wants to do it. >> once we get over it, we hope it's a bridge to something that will help you and caterpillar compete better in the world. after the cliff, what do you want? is there any emphasis on corporate tax reform that we need or how to bring $2 trillion ba
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